. >> let me ask ron reagan to weigh in after the senate passed an earlier version, senator john mccain and tom coburn talked about questionable things. $2 million to repair damage over mumps in washington, d.c. $15 million for nasa facilities, though nasa itself has called damage minimal. all of the provisions were stripped from the bill that the house approved today. it was pork free. what do you make of this? >> as far as provisions being in there in the first place, unfortunately, that's how sausages are made in washington, d.c. let's remember, we're talking about an appropriation that is some 10,000 million dollars. you cited less than $200 million out of the $10,000 million questionable. it was stripped out. even if it wasn't stripped out. even if that was the price you would pay for greasing the skids of government to get needed aid to people, i would argue it is necessary that you must do that. it's unfortunate, but we must do that. you want to have a discussion about flood insurance or what fema does, how it does it, how effectively it does it, that's fine. but you don't do it